I've been going to SDC since i was born. I've always remembered the train skit where alfie and ralphie bowlin hold up the train. Has it ever been different or is there ever any talk of changing it to something new?
They will add or take out stuff depending on if they need to hurry things along or stall... but pretty much the skit has been the same for as long as I can remember.
As far as changing it, I've heard they're contemplating doing away with it all together.
It does change depending on how many trains they have going at once. I can't remember which part gets cut out on the short version, but I rode the train a few times a few weeks ago and noticed some major differences depending on the time of day and the number of trains running.
I don't think they'll do away with it altogether until they run out of space to put it. They've already had to push it back to a new location because of TGS. If they put a new coaster back there, who knows what they'll do. It would take a chunk out of the park if they did away with it though, I can't remember ever going to SDC and not being robbed on the train.
Quote from: shavethewhales on July 29, 2009, 05:55:39 PM
I can't remember ever going to SDC and not being robbed on the train.
Just every year during An Old Time Christmas ;)
If they cannot get employees to take the characters a little more serious, then they should do away with it. I was there Monday and it was just flat terrible. There was only "Alfie" and the conductor and all they wanted to do was try to get each other to fall out of character which ended up just looking stupid out there. Alfie was even trying to knock the conductors hat off with his "stick" during the monologue. Very unprofessional and I might add a little embarrassing.
I've always wondered if it was part of the script for the actors to drop lines and start laughing at themselves. Kind of Branson style chummy-ness. I'm pretty sure that it is intentional unprofessionalness designed to build a relationship with the audience. If it is not planned, the line dropping has happened too many times and I'd have to agree with dropping the show. . .but it's got to be intentional.
Oh, i kinda like it when they mess up and know it. I've seen the skit done so many times it offers something new and funny. I could understand if it was your first time seeing it though.
I'm pretty sure the part they cut out when its busy is the whole thing about their mom bein on the train, then they go and pick some lady to play their mom. I like it when the lady actually goes along with it and says shes their mom. :D
i seem to remember when i was very very small my parents took us on the train and there were 4 (or even more than 4) people doing the skit. it was more like a beverly hillbillies type skit than a holdup i think.
We love the skit! We also like it when unplanned things happen. I hope the 'actors' do take it seriously and can still have fun. Before anyone does away with it, try freshening it up. These characters are some of the only ones left in the park. Maybe Alfie and Ralfie should get run out of town square every morning, and maybe sneak back into town at the end of the day only to be arrested and hauled away in the sheriffs horse drawn paddy wagon????
It's great the first few times- now my kids will not ride the train because the hold up bores them :'(
Oh, I agree with the occasional blunder, but these guys blew the whole skit. Once the train started back, it was like everyone thought "what was that all about?" I guess it falls in the category of "you should have been there" because it really was bad.
i think it'd be funny if the gun didnt fire at the end and what their response would be. wonder if thats happened before. :D
It acually happens quite a lot, two responses are used "everyone yell bang on the count of 3" "I had my silencer on"
The conductor just yelled "bang" when we visited in the spring. It didn't make much sense. Someone should have something prepared for such an occasion. After all this time, they should have better "adlibs".
Do the guys go stir crazy out there? What do they do in between robberies?
I'll be able to tell you soon. I was just hired to be one!
This goes along with what happened on our last visit. As the train approached the Bolin's the conductor asked everyone on the train to yell "English" whenever the word Yankees was used. It was funny the first two or three times then they began to look foolish. My youngest son and grandsons were on the train. I am not sure if the people in charge of the city want them to have these kinds of memories of the train ride. It has always been one of the great things about SDC.
i think it makes each trip unique when they add their own touches to the show. I hate it when you get on a ride such as this and it just feels and sounds like the person talking is reading everything off a sheet of paper with no interest or emotion in it.
Different is good but they must remember it's for the audience not themselves.
I took my wife on the train ride for her first non-Christmas ride, and I, a seasoned veteran who could recite every line of the hold up scene was very let down by it all. I know I am a bit of a harsher critic than some others, but it was too quiet for the average rider, much MUCH shorter than the show once was, and well very flat, and empty as far as the actual body of the hold up. From start to finish, boarding the train to exiting the train, it was not quite 15 minutes! I thought it was longer. It was only about 15 seconds from the time the conductor "went up the tracks" until he came back down to stop the hold up. Each robber had covered 3-4 windows. Besides the hold up, we heard nothing of the conductor from car 3 due to the immense screeching noise coming from our wheels.
They had two "new to us" guys playing the Bolens on Saturday. IDK if they were just not used to their parts yet or just didn't care but the whole thing didn't do anything for me. I miss Gunner and Butch playing the roles as I believe they were the two that debuted the current script.
It was Friday I believe...if that makes any difference. I didn't recognize them.
Dot the people in charge know what is going on. It seems that quite a few of us have been disappointed in the train this year. I know that this along with the cave, the flooded mine and the candy store are some of my best memories.
Personally I am ready for them to remove the stop all together.
If need be they could put another sight-gag in that location, but no longer do the stop
I thought the stop there had something to do with the train needing to gain steam to hit the last climb...? Or was that just something from the past...?
Joy
i was there on saturday from opening till close (10pm) and we rode the train at around 530-6pm. They did the shorter version of the skit (without the part of recognizing their mom on the train). Things i noticed was the flatness of the conductor. Some of the lines were ommitted, like 'ladies put your feet down' and just running jokes together without the right delivery.
Also, where did the caboose right outside of wilsons farm come from? It looks very old but i dont remember it.
It looked like there were a couple new dummies (the man and woman at the fire) at the hobo caboose, yet the poor dummy in the barrel taking a shower looked like he was falling apart. i dont know if it was supposed to be some kind of new material to make it look like bubbles on his head or if his head had actual damage to it that has made it explode and the innards coming out. Poor old thing. I know it is at least 30 years old as its always been there since i've came. The elements have not been kind.
Whats the deal with there now being a new area for the holdup skit, yet on down the tracks was the old one?
The little "4 story mansion" was gone. This is the first year in probably 3 years i've gone to SDC, so this stuff may not be new.
Quote from: tinaalsgirl on August 03, 2009, 02:41:04 AM
I thought the stop there had something to do with the train needing to gain steam to hit the last climb...? Or was that just something from the past...?
Joy
Yes, they do need the stop for the train to build up steam for the last climb.
Quote from: RollaJedi on August 03, 2009, 08:38:16 AM
Whats the deal with there now being a new area for the holdup skit, yet on down the tracks was the old one?
They moved the cabin for the holdup skit earlier in the train ride in 2007 due to the encroachment of The Giant Swing. You can see and hear TGS from the location of the old cabin.
Gunner was a conductor right? Was that the character's name or his real name. We always enjoyed his work on he train and the skit.
On our visit in June, the skit went fine. They adlibbed after a couple of blown lines, but they stayed on theme.
But, we couldn't hear anything the conductor said during the ride. It was all very rushed, and very distorted. You could tell that "...the other way, ladies!" only got a laugh from people who already knew the joke. People who didn't, didn't even know a joke had been told.
Quote from: crsjrr on August 03, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
Gunner was a conductor right? Was that the character's name or his real name. We always enjoyed his work on he train and the skit.
Gunner's real name is Rusty. He played both Ralphie and was a Conductor
I rode the Train with my kids and a few friends on Monday... It was the whole skit. They even picked the woman from the train to be their mom.... The conductor was a little quiet and seemed to be new... Over all I still had a good time.
Hello all...long time listener, first time caller. We were at the City
several days last week and rode the train each day. We experienced
the entire spectrum of hold-ups...one that was pretty good, one that was not so good and one with a single robber that hardly qualified as a robbery. I don't know, sometimes the characters seem to be going through the motions. But, I guess I can see how that can happen since they do so many skits a day every day of the week. Some might find it tough to keep that enthusiasm going.
I hate to be blunt. That is their job. To help make special moments for familys to share.
Again and again. My wife and I were just talking about this. The skit my four year old grandson saw was not the skit I saw as a four year old. This is one of the great things about this park. If the people who are doing the skit don't want to do it right........I hear they are hiring at CC. What is a shame is that so many people work hard to keep this park great.......
I agree, they should give their very best effort every time the train stops at that shack. The day they don't want to do it is the day they need to find a different job in the park. I hate to think how many people are taking their first ride on the train only to witness a less than stellar effort by the parties involved. That's too bad.
Worlds of Fun is full of people (kids, really) who get a job there so they can make some extra cash.
SDC, on the other hand, is one of those places that I would imagine you applied for because you actually WANT to work there, beyond just for a paycheck. If you're not satisfied, transfer to the sanitation department or somewhere where your dissatisfaction isn't affecting how customers enjoy their day.
Joy
I hadn't rode the train in several years, so the family and I rode today. I was looking forward to my kids seeing the robbery for the first time. The conductor and one of the robbers did a good job, but the other robber looked like a local tired of the bothersome tourist. He didn't "act" at all, he just said his lines in a very dis-interested way. In the end when he was supposed to bend over to be shot he lazily bent over and barely reacted when shot. I found myself telling my wife about the good ole' days when they would jump and holler and run back to the cabin very comedically, then I remembered this thread. I'll bet this has become one of the forgotten parts of the park that is never inspected by some of the higher-ups.
REVAMP or RECAST PRONTO!
How many of you have can't wait to retire, move to Branson and get a job at the city?
I know that since I was four or five years old I have wanted to be the conductor on the Frisco line.(both my grandfather and great grandfather were enginers on the MO PAC).
I have always wanted to tell the dumb jokes, putting your foot down, the other way ladies, that's because your in the woods, rattle snake, don't get off the train till I tell you too. What great old lines, yet they still bring a smile to my face. Why can't these guys get it right?
I said this in the "how was your trip?" thread, and I think it applies here too. So here you go!
I don't think this has been brought up, but (sorry Swoosh, you'll hate this :)) I wonder if some of the less than hospitable citizens (and actors in this skit) might be due to the job market? People lose their jobs and will literally take anything (I mean ANYTHING) to make ends meet. Sure, you can try to weed them out in the hiring process, but if they really know the interview process they can sweet talk themselves into getting the position. (I'm sure we've all done this to some extent).
Maybe if the job market is better next season there won't be so many inhospitable citizens (and less-than-enthusiastic actors).
I want the Nate Versus Lever joke back on the train. I remember that joke from the first time I ever went on the train, and I can't recall ever hearing it since.
Joy
Well, there is new talent on the train as of this week. I bet he's having fun with it. 8)
Would that be Steam Freak
I would love to get a report from Steam Freak on how the new job is going.
Ah, you guys beat me to it! I was just going to ask SF if he had been able to convey our thoughts. You just KNOW he's putting everything into it.
Quote from: History Buff on August 08, 2009, 08:57:17 PM
Ah, you guys beat me to it! I was just going to ask SF if he had been able to convey our thoughts. You just KNOW he's putting everything into it.
I'll bet he was there when we went, because their was definitely and inequality in the performances. The conductor was good, and one of the performers was "in" to it, and one was a vet that looked as if he had to do this corny performance one more time he might just load the gun for real next time. ;D
Well, my sources say that there were over 20,000 guests today (Saturday), and SF performed the train skit 17 times. He's worn out, but loved it.
Sounds like a great way to get worn out.
Priceless ;D
After just getting married, Steam Freak is probably learning that no one can put their foot down like a lady can!
Still waiting to hear from Steam Freak on how the new job is going!
Looks like Steam Freak left us. his posts now say that he is just a vistor. I guess SDC has made someone else leave us.
He's just opting to avoid saying something he shouldn't on a public forum, now that he's a brand-new employee.
He's on Facebook, though, as is our favorite cave guide.
Quote from: KBCraig on August 25, 2009, 06:49:06 PM
He's just opting to avoid saying something he shouldn't on a public forum, now that he's a brand-new employee.
He's on Facebook, though, as is our favorite cave guide.
LOL... Yes, I'm on facebook and back to this site.. for over a month or two now.
SteamFreak i think is lurking reading comments..
I was ready to come back and thinking that I could make sure I didn't over speak..
anyway.. i went on the train ride 3 times recently once, not with SF though, but i did ride once around with him telling me all the things I've never noticed before. The actors were as good as i remember them but then again i've only been coming to the park since 1988
Had a great time at SDC this past weekend! Rode the train twice. The second time Steam Freak was the conductor. He did a nice job. I talked with him a little before the ride and he said he was really enjoying his job. He mentioned that he had visited with Tinman earlier that day. He said Tinman snapped a few photos. Maybe one will show up here. I thought the actors in the robbery did a nice job both times (one time with mom on the train and one time without). They seemed enthusiastic and interested.
Cool video, except for the phone call in the middle.
A certain freak of evaporated water appears in this one. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkLgNsQc028
I was on the train a couple of weeks ago and got to see something I thought was ultra-cool. We had to make the stop at the old robbery location to build up steam and poof the fire went out.
2 things really neat happened. I was sitting up in the fron and got to see them re-light it.
Also the conductor spent some time talking about the trains and where they came from.
My favorite train ride ever.
^That is really cool. There was one time I was riding the train and the fire went out. Unfortunately I was at the back and didn't get to see them re-light it. :-[
It happens more than you'd think, not a big deal though, just a quick re-light and we're off.
Hey everyone. I don't know how many people knew Tom Roush that worked at the caity for many years, even robbed trains for a while. Hwe passed away last weekend due to complications of diabetes complications which caused him to retire.
He was a good friend and will be missed.
I have a question about the train robberies. It seems like there have been times my kids actually gave some money to the robbers, and they kept it. Is that allowed, and if so, is there some special fund the money goes into?
^If I remember correctly, they donate it to charity.
I heard it goes to buying Steam some more Jerky! ;D ONly joking, I have heard it goes to charity as well....SteamFreak can answer it for sure though...
HFEC has a program called "Share it Forward" this program helps out employees who may be going through a rough patch in their lives and might need help with some bills or medical charges. For every dollar raised the company matches a dollar and the Herchend family also matches a dollar. This year the program has been expanded to help single moms working at the park by providing extra money each month worked at the park. All the money collected from the robberies goes to Share it Forward.
*jaw drops*
I love HFEC.
How else can we donate money to this?
I'm not sure how outside donations would be taken, my donation come directly out of my paycheck. I'll find out if non-employees can contribute.
Maybe they should put up a little sign in the train cars saying something like "All loot from train robberies is donated to chairity." If I knew that going in I'd probably put the ol' crowbar a little deeper in the wallet.
Good idea, but I would want to know to which charity my money was going.
Maybe I'm too trusting, but I guess if SDC thought it was a worthy cause I'd give.
This is what some of the money that HFE makes goes to. I know a portion of the money from the Ozark Mountain Daredevils Concert is going this direction.
http://www.silverdollarcityfoundation.com/ (http://www.silverdollarcityfoundation.com/)
Things like this are in my opinion what sets this park above the rest.
Please don't get me wrong. It's incredible to me that such a large organization has such an eye toward the community and to charity. However, this is exactly what I mean by wanting to know what the charity is. A person may or may not share the tenets of a church being supported, and therefore would be supporting what they (again, may or may not) believe is a false message. I think a person has a right to know where his money is going. Having said that, I have to admire the conviction of a company that is so committed to their own beliefs.
Read what Steam wrote about "Share it forward", that's why we were talking about donating!
Yes, and as I understand it, the single mom's program is another religious ministry (overseen by Peter's wife). My point is simply that I would like for HFE to be more specific about their charities to allow visitors to make their own decisions about giving to the specific causes based on their personal belief systems.
Quote from: History Buff on March 13, 2010, 10:41:35 AM
Please don't get me wrong. It's incredible to me that such a large organization has such an eye toward the community and to charity. However, this is exactly what I mean by wanting to know what the charity is. A person may or may not share the tenets of a church being supported, and therefore would be supporting what they (again, may or may not) believe is a false message. I think a person has a right to know where his money is going. Having said that, I have to admire the conviction of a company that is so committed to their own beliefs.
I don't think they are hiding where the money is going. Especially since they have a website explaining everything about their charity. I don't see any denial of rights going on at all. A person has the right to do the leg work and investigate the charity before they throw their money in the pile. I never throw money down the rabbit hole just because someone claims they are a "charity". And as far as the train robbery skit, I don't think they are guilty of "failure to disclose", because you are really not being robbed, and therefore aren't forced to donate to the secret charity behind this farce.
Also, I can't believe it would make anyone feel better that the train holdup proceeds were going to a Mountain Dew and a sandwich score by the robbers as opposed to helping bring a little light to some struggling kids.
By the way this is not intended to be offensive to you in any way Mr. Buff. Just a counter point to the popular way of thinking these days. A charity can be aimed at saving Whales or rainbows and nobody says boo, but let it be affiliated with a ministry and...whoahhhh there mister, what are you trying to pull!
This is awesome! :D I will for sure give some paper this summer instead of some silver. I wish I would of known this all along~ This company is the best!
Wow is all I can say. Here is a group who is trying to help people from Stone and Taney counties and we have..........
What is next? That Mary H. had the old church put on the property to convert everyone who came to SDC.
I think this is a great program. Good for you SDC!!!!!!!!!!!
Wasn't the Wilderness Church "made" from the logs of an old schoolhouse in the area?
Back during the time I was on park, the train robbers were more likely to be hit in the face by popcorn thrown by guests, or have part of a coke poured on them. If they got any money at all, it was likely a few pennies or a nickel. I'm glad to hear they give the money to charity nowadays.
Have I said something wrong by suggesting to put up a sign? I've not suggested anyone is trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes; HFE is quite open about the faith of its leadership. In fact, I think putting a sign up about the charity would actually put more money in the kitty. I can't imagine too many people actually would do research about a theme park's charity online before visiting the park, but putting up a sign at the station would be a direct way of involving more people in giving. Some people just want to know so they can have a choice. Like I said, some would put in more (just look at the responses in this thread), but some may opt to give to another charity or church that does good for the community, and that would be OK too.
Now, back to the topic of this thread...was there a time when Ma was actually in the skit or is my memory not what it used to be?
Quote from: History Buff on March 14, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
Have I said something wrong by suggesting to put up a sign? I've not suggested anyone is trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes; HFE is quite open about the faith of its leadership. In fact, I think putting a sign up about the charity would actually put more money in the kitty. I can't imagine too many people actually would do research about a theme park's charity online before visiting the park, but putting up a sign at the station would be a direct way of involving more people in giving. Some people just want to know so they can have a choice. Like I said, some would put in more (just look at the responses in this thread), but some may opt to give to another charity or church that does good for the community, and that would be OK too.
Now, back to the topic of this thread...was there a time when Ma was actually in the skit or is my memory not what it used to be?
I think a sign or something like it would be a good idea. But there's a problem with it. For those who have never ridden the train, the holdup is a surprise. So if you put up a sign, it ruins that surprise. I remember the first time I rode the train when I was three or four years old and how surprised I was at the holdup.
As for Ma being in the skit, not that I can remember. Granted, I have only been going to SDC since the mid to late 80s.
Hmmm... maybe the sign could be at the place the robbers stop the train? Or have it at the exit of the depot, where you see it getting off but not on? So it at least assures people of where their money went but still not spoil the surprise.
QuoteI think a sign or something like it would be a good idea. But there's a problem with it. For those who have never ridden the train, the holdup is a surprise. So if you put up a sign, it ruins that surprise. I remember the first time I rode the train when I was three or four years old and how surprised I was at the holdup.
I thought of that, or an announcement over the speakers after the holdup. These would be nice, but still do not tell people ahead of time. I don't think it's much of a mystery to adults that there will be a holdup on a train in a theme park, so a sign at the depot would be simple. Maybe a short message could be placed on the map or in the
Times.
QuoteAs for Ma being in the skit, not that I can remember. Granted, I have only been going to SDC since the mid to late 80s.
I am almost certain that there was a Ma for a while. I don't know why I'm just now thinking about it, but it seems that Ma was a mean old cuss who really bossed the boys around. That means they couldn't look for Ma on the train, but maybe that was different too. Of course, I could be thinking about another train in another place. Maybe Junior or Zephon can remember.
I was in the infancy of my citizenship in 1978, but I do remember a woman taking part in train robberies in '77 and in '78. I cannot remember her name, but she did rob trains on the side...she was in the street troupe in Hatfield/McCoy Skits most of the time. She was photographed in 1977 by a company photographer, and the shots were placed in the "Silver Dollar City Wish You Were Here" booklet released in 1978. Want to see a woman robbing the train? Check it out on my Flickr page at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/juniordugan
I honestly don't know if she was playing "Ma" or if she was a sister or cousin to Alphie and Ralphie Bowlin. Maybe Zephon can call Randy Stowe up in the Entertainment Office and ask him...Randy was both a Junior Dugan and a Bowlin boy at the train in '78 and '79.
Thanks. I may be remembering those pictures since I have that particular book.
Quote from: History Buff on March 14, 2010, 04:36:42 PM
QuoteI think a sign or something like it would be a good idea. But there's a problem with it. For those who have never ridden the train, the holdup is a surprise. So if you put up a sign, it ruins that surprise. I remember the first time I rode the train when I was three or four years old and how surprised I was at the holdup.
I thought of that, or an announcement over the speakers after the holdup. These would be nice, but still do not tell people ahead of time. I don't think it's much of a mystery to adults that there will be a holdup on a train in a theme park, so a sign at the depot would be simple. Maybe a short message could be placed on the map or in the Times.
QuoteAs for Ma being in the skit, not that I can remember. Granted, I have only been going to SDC since the mid to late 80s.
I am almost certain that there was a Ma for a while. I don't know why I'm just now thinking about it, but it seems that Ma was a mean old cuss who really bossed the boys around. That means they couldn't look for Ma on the train, but maybe that was different too. Of course, I could be thinking about another train in another place. Maybe Junior or Zephon can remember.
And if after the announcment you decided that you didn't like the charity do you get to go back and rob the robbers. I'm just kidding History Buff. I guess I just hate this modern day onslaught of political correctness. Something seems wrong when you have to be careful about running a charity in fear of offending people, so you feel compelled to plaster signs everywhere to cover your buttocks. It is sad, but it takes courage for a corporation to state their deeply held beliefs. Most corporations sterilize it to the point of being almost like the "Human Fund" of Seinfeld fame. So they end up trying find a charity to throw money at just for the sake of public relations. Kudos to SDC, and I have great respect for them for that.
I remember a "Ma" also. It did seem like she was always yelling at the boys to get in the house. Maybe that was at Dogpatch. Did Dogpatch have a robbery?
Yes, indeed, DP had a train "Robbery", or stop, at the moonshine shack...
Not that it's the same, but Cindi Lauper's "charity" on this season's Celebrity Apprentice is some "Gay/Lesbian/Transgendered Awareness" fund. I have faith that SDC isn't going to do something like that with my money, but I want to know. "Charities" these days could be just about anything, and I expect just some amount of disclosure before I blindly throw money at it. I'm the one who checks out the list of United Way charities before filling out my card at work every year, and have found a couple of organizations on the list that have given me cause for concern (i.e., Planned Parenthood). It's not about being politically correct; being politically correct would be adding a tax to my income to make sure all charities get the same percentage - without regard to personal preference.
Back on the topic (again), I never went to Dogpatch, so that can't be what I'm remembering. Perhaps it was Frontier City, Opryland, or SF/Texas.
I do remember seeing the "stop" at Dogpatch...I think Earthquake McGoon took part in the moonshine skit. Opryland, to the best of memory, did not have a robbery or skit on their train, it was simply transportation from one part of the park to another...I remember one of the Opryland train stations was named "Grinder's Switch" after Miss Minnie Pearl's comedy monologs about her hometown. Six Flags St. Louis never had any skits on the train ride, either, it was like the Opryland train ride.
It would be hard to imagine a train ride without a hold up skit, or at least some kind of visual entertainment along the way. Seems like it would be a time waster at a theme park. Another reason to like Silver Dollar City.
I took my five year old daughter and four year old son on the train this past season and will never forget the look on their faces when we stopped and the robbers came out. They both looked at me with goofy grins on their faces as if to say; "are you serious"?
The robbery is one of my six-year old daughter's favorite things on the park. I agree that Gunner and T-Bone were 2 of the best. I remember Gunner as the conductor with a funny line as we passed The Giant Swing: "And there's The Giant Swing, part of Wilson's Farm. You know who Wilson's Farm was named for? It was Bob Farm, a local farmer". Hilarious!
Also, when my daughter was 2, we were at Spring Family Break Days and the temperature was in the low 40s. She had on some kind of Nordic looking outfit with a hood with tassels on either side of it. Gunner, as one of the Bolin boys during the robbery, said "Look- a baby Baldknobber".
Not that it's the same, but Cindi Lauper's "charity" on this season's Celebrity Apprentice is some "Gay/Lesbian/Transgendered Awareness" fund. I have faith that SDC isn't going to do something like that with my money
Wow,
what a telling statement.
I may not understand everything out there and I may not agree with everything that goes on in this world but that statement sure shows your colors.
All types of people need support.
She isn't doing N.A.B.L.A awareness work.......
There was a woman and she played MA back in the day. The train robbers can be the best part of SDC or (as they have often be in the past few years) by breaking scrip some of the worst parts.
^^Not ashamed of my colors, just making the point that I like to choose my own charities. Give to whom you choose, and I'll give to whom I choose.