So...for those that have strollers:
Anyone else really frustrated every time you ride the flooded mine?
It drives me crazy that you park your strollers so far away from where you come out. And often when you walk out you are poured right into a salmon migration.
How busy is Love my Country? Could that area be reconfigured some?
Ha, you know I have never considered that before, but your absolutely correct. When you leave the Flooded Mine you do exit into a completely different area than where you had entered at.
I do not have an immediate solution to your situation, but you have made my brain to tick a little bit. Interesting. :)
Saloongal, your post reminded me of the first time I ever rode FMS. It was my first time in the City, and I came out completely disoriented wondering, "Where the heck am I?" Might be nice if they put a little map near the exit with a "You are here" arrow!
We usually plan to ride it as we are headed to GE or "around the corner" to GG, so we park the strollers over by the entrance, ride, then the majority of the group goes on to where we planned to go next while my husband runs back to get the strollers and meets us.
Either way, it is just odd!
That whole are could use a few extra feet of people room If you ask me. It is a spot where the train boards, and releases, FM boards and releases, The potato and skillet lines up, dippin dots are being sold and everyone else walks though on thier laps of the park. Love My country is great but I wonder if they Love thier location as well...Seems as most people pass it by, and that it does not get near as much business as some of the other stores-Not trying to be unpatriotic-
Also on the corner now is the Strawberries and cream, the roasted nuts, and some other stand I cant think of right now.
I know they can't help the way the ride exits. But they can help how much other stuff is going on right there.
And love my country doesn't really fit in there...maybe something else would be better suited.
Maybe a bridge across the pond from the opposite end of the dock where we currently exit? That spill us out on the same side of the building that the strollers are on.
Would it be better if you could park the strollers on the side of the exit? How much space would it take to build a coral for the strollers there. Or would that be too far to walk without your stroller?
We approach FM from the GG side and park our stroller behind the lemonade stand at the exit and then head up the hill to ride. Coming out, we plop a kid into the stroller and climb the hill again. You are correct about this being a funnel area for the crowd. There are a couple of these areas in the park that require a creative solution.
While we are at it, can we reconfigure the whole bottle neck there by the Saloon. The line for it needs to be moved else where. It's bad on a non-busy day and is a nightmare during Christmas
Yup. That's clearly one of the most congested areas, along with the bottleneck that occurs just down the hill into the Riverfront. Maybe these areas are congested due to the dead-end road to the Opera House, FitH, and PK. Loop it around and the problem might be alleviated.
How about get ride of all the strollers. Then people would get tired of caring their kids and leave the park. This would make more room for those of us who do not have kids in strollers. It would also cut down on the bottle neck areas.
Uh, you are darn right that without strollers the place would be less crowded! And although I am a stroller pusher...Why do some people have to be so rude? Seriously, strollers are not weapons that should be used to clear a path, or to take the skin off the back of the ankle of the person in front of you.
Anyway.
Swoosh, you are right about the saloon too. Why doesnt it come farther down and around with more of a straight line towards the riverfront area (like under the rr bridge).
Does anyone mind having the strollers parked by the lemonade stand? Maybe they could just make that an official stroller lot.
^We never had a complaint. Of course, we've only done it a couple of times.
I think some of the extra space from the old Lost Crafts area needs to be moved to the needed areas.
Strollers ...ok. But when it comes to a cranky grandparent in a motorized cart clipping your heels as you walk past the potatoes, heaven forbid you should want to smell them, SORRY OLD MAN YOU CAN"T TASTE ANYMORE....I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FOOD THOUGH! I hate seeing them like runaway ore carts going down cardiac hill (the big one) zipping right past the honey stop like they have no breaks expecting you to move for them. Those things should have maps to say where to take them. I am all about respecting elders, but I think many times the elders abuse this privilege, and become senile. Just a thought I had with a connected memory! Now back to the reconfiguration.
Keep talking....you'll be there some day.
When the check them out they are told not to go down that hill. I guess that means their hearing aids are failing also.
Not to mention that they - beeep, beeeeep, beeeep - back up without looking behind them.
There is nothing that Xisses me off more than a stroler with a older child in it, or one that is being used as a rolling vacation storage station.
Nothing more than possible seeing overweight young or middle aged people who rent those carts so they dont have to walk. ( THis also apparently allows them to get on the ride through the exit skipping the line) Hey now, thats a better deal than the Trailblazers pass, you dont have to walk and you get reight on teh riders as often as you want; Nice.
Strollers are nessesary fro small children, not for older kids that dont want to walk.
Carts should be rented by people that need them not by those that are lazy and just want to gridlock the park. Its liek going to walk mart and seeing people park in handicap and walk right in teh store, they are cheating. Not just cheating but frankly I think its bad Karma, or Omen to put yourself into that possition too early.
The areas you were talking about with the bottleneck are indeed problems, they do however sit on areas that can be used as walkways with a little adjustment.
The Saloon sits on the road with the restaurant seating across the street, reclaim some of the area around the waterfall and remove a line of tables there, they can also build and additional raised rock bed to serve as seating between the road and restaurant seating to keep the walk separate.
The Flooded mine is also an area that can be adjusted, move one or all of those stands back, the area there can be built up on the Echo Hollow side to accommodate the adjustment without doing any harm to the park. There is space to adjust and they must in the future, although its over due. I noticed this year they are adjusting the size of the raised beds to open more walkways, specificaly in front of the furniture store, this is a good move. I am a huge advocate of flowers and the like but these can be built on the sides of the streets. They double as benches as well.
As far as the river area I have rarely seen all the seats in the BBQ picnic area filled, they can also move this back to increase the walkway.
Is my thinking off or isn't this all possible?
Quote from: mhguy77 on April 17, 2010, 09:33:04 AM
There is nothing that Xisses me off more than a stroler with a older child in it, or one that is being used as a rolling vacation storage station.
Nothing more than possible seeing overweight young or middle aged people who rent those carts so they dont have to walk. ( THis also apparently allows them to get on the ride through the exit skipping the line) Hey now, thats a better deal than the Trailblazers pass, you dont have to walk and you get reight on teh riders as often as you want; Nice.
Strollers are nessesary fro small children, not for older kids that dont want to walk.
Carts should be rented by people that need them not by those that are lazy and just want to gridlock the park. Its liek going to walk mart and seeing people park in handicap and walk right in teh store, they are cheating. Not just cheating but frankly I think its bad Karma, or Omen to put yourself into that possition too early.
When you say "older kids," what age do you mean?
I mean 6-7 and up.
Children that are not stroler age, I am sure you have seen a first grader in a stroler...........I know i have seen this a few times at SDC
It's always a special treat to see a parent carrying the stroller baby and pushing the grade school kid in the stroller (usually too big to fit and has to sit with legs hanging over the little tray on the front). :-\
QuoteThose things should have maps to say where to take them.
Sadly they do and the employees explain everything to them, but they don't listen.
I went to the park last Thursday with my parents and while we were in line for Fiery Fiddles - had been standing still for several minutes - a lady on a motorized cart ran over my dad. As in, I'm standing there minding my own business and the next thing I know my dad is flailing and grabbing for me, I reach over and grab his arm, and he ends up lying face first on the ground with a motorized cart parked on his knees. Of course she and the lady with her both apologized a few times and dad didn't seem to have any injuries so he brushed himself off and said "it's okay". But the whole thing was ridiculous. It made me even madder to discover that they didn't even stay in line for the show. So we have no idea if they just weren't paying attention and didn't realize we were in line or if they got embarrassed and left the scene of the crime. I know accidents happen and people do need these carts, but it's not like she just "bumped" him. He was seriously ran over.
Quote from: mhguy77 on April 17, 2010, 09:46:06 AM
As far as the river area I have rarely seen all the seats in the BBQ picnic area filled, they can also move this back to increase the walkway.
One thing to note on the Rib House dining patios is that there are two. There is one that is directly on the Lost River and then there is the one near the TGS pathway. Neither of the two patios are connected (not sure why, but that is the case). The west patio (near TGS pathway) is only used if the west serving line is open. The east serving line (near Lost River) is always the first to open and thus is always full. I have seen countless times where the east patio is completely full and people cannot find a place to sit down and eat. If they could connect the two patios, that would alleviate a lot of those problems and the western patio would be used more often.
What about connecting the wildfire area with the powderkeg area? it would seen like an easy thing to do, that theater area near Powder Keg is a real mess near, god forbid you have to make a stop at the mens room there.
The path from PowderKeg goes nowhere, this could be connected behind the waterfall pretty easily.
Also what is your opinion with connecting the back of the GE to the now missing waterboggin area? this area is a cramped mess and needs another way in and out. There is parking back there but you might think they could
build a walkway through, even if it was covered, it could be a cool transitional area between the 2.
I think the back of GE (back side of Red Gold) is warehouse and garage access. A connection there would be difficult.